186 points by primaprashant 14 hours ago | 51 comments
crakhamster01 2 hours ago
How does anyone internally at Google justify these decisions?

Even if there are competing implementations, in terms of brand recognition, I feel like “Gemini” is more closely associated with Google than “Antigravity”. Why pick the more obscure option?!

Perhaps they felt the sentiment on Gemini CLI was beyond repair, but surely there must be some voice on the inside saying “developers will never adopt our products if we keep killing them”.

hydra-f 19 minutes ago
By unifying the billing and quota systems, as well as providing better integration, I presume

The Antigravity harness is by far better than the gemini-cli one. Antigravity also offers models other than Gemini as well. When you say Antigravity, you think of a platform whereas when you say Gemini you think of the model

It's great that gemini-cli is open-source, but that also comes with a bunch of ai-generated issues and pull-requests, which is sure to impede development

blitzar 28 minutes ago
I disagree; gemini is their ai model brand, antigravity is their code harness.

Its much better branding than calling every single product "Co-Pilot (tm)".

seviu 1 hour ago
In those rare occasion when I want to use Gemini I just type gemini on my terminal.

Gemini was on life support on my side. I barely get to use it due to its subpar performance in coding, which is to be honest the only use I have of it.

And now I read that they spent 4 to 5 months testing 3.5 internally. Let that sink in. By the time they release the world has moved on. I don’t know who makes decisions at Google regarding AI but it saddens me to see this happening. Google should be up there leading but they are lagging against everybody.

How can I justify dropping 100$ per month, for a coding agent that is half a year behind, knowing that Codex or Kimi is going to do much better?

Stock might be ripping but that’s about it.

kreelman 38 minutes ago
I get what you're saying about Gemini for coding and it's useful that you mention it.

I wonder though if Google isn't so worried about the viability of their coding AIs and have a longer term view than simply providing coding aids. This might also be indicated by their recent $40B investment in Anthropic, https://www.cnbc.com/2026/04/24/google-to-invest-up-to-40-bi...

...Only time will tell!

popcorncowboy 1 hour ago
On the other hand I quietly cheer every time they fumble even slightly, in their seemingly inexorable march to becoming our ultimate, terrifying, corporate overlords.
egorfine 9 minutes ago
> developers will never adopt our products if we keep killing them

We all want this to be the case but it's never the case. It never stops to amuse me how developers of the world fall into the Google trap again and again and again despite knowing better.

Personally have been hurt a lot by the abandonment of Polymer and since then it would not occur to me to touch any Google development product because what's the point really?

jstummbillig 59 minutes ago
I would wager your feelings conflict with their analysis (which they are probably quite good at, with all that practice)
crakhamster01 24 minutes ago
> I would wager your feelings conflict with their analysis

How their target audience feels isn’t separate from “analysis” - it’s the input.

simonw 7 hours ago
Gemini CLI was open source (Apache 2): https://github.com/google-gemini/gemini-cli

Antigravity CLI is not - the repo has a README and an animated gif demo: https://github.com/google-antigravity/antigravity-cli

xnx 6 hours ago
There's a comment from a Googler that there's a chance Antigravity will be open sourced.
blitzar 27 minutes ago
theres a chance I will be the first multi trillionaire to have a platinum debut album in each of the music genres.
p_l 38 minutes ago
"Chance" is not giving much compared to write lively Gemini-CLI repo
silverlight 8 hours ago
Google really can’t help themselves but to have some internal re-org kill off a public thing people are actively using. It’s honestly impressive how consistent they are.
brookst 7 hours ago
The rest of out here watching usage and telemetry to decide where to invest, meanwhile, over at Google…
wmf 4 hours ago
What if their telemetry shows very low usage? I've seen virtually no discussion of Gemini CLI online.
antonvs 3 hours ago
There are 13,700 forks of its repo on Github.

If anything, I suspect closing the source for their coding agent may have been part of the goal.

ddalex 1 hour ago
If the repo is already forked, what difference does it make if Google supports it or not? The community can just continue development if they so choose
Raed667 1 hour ago
google can kill your account for using an unsupported harness when/if they choose
bakugo 1 hour ago
Forks don't mean anything anymore, especially on an AI-related repo. 99% of them are automated.
worthless-trash 2 hours ago
Whats to discuss, it works, it does the job, cant complain.
maipen 45 minutes ago
Even thought there are people using, it doesn’t mean they see a future in it. Google is the best when it comes to analytics and trends. If they see a product is expected to fail, which in this case it was, they simply kill it and move on instead of wasting resources saving a sinking ship.

Of course, something could’ve been improved, but that’s just how they operate.

I could be completely wrong though

debian3 4 hours ago
The usual playbook is they rename it a few times first, then they kill it.
cik 3 hours ago
Sometimes it becomes 11 different chat applications among the way.
Bilal_io 2 hours ago
It's technically a chat application. Except you're chatting with an LLM instead of friends and family.
Kwpolska 1 hour ago
And building a chat app is how you get promoted at Google.
sbinnee 4 hours ago
Another tombstone in Google Graveyard soon [1].

[1] https://killedbygoogle.com/

blcsntb 2 hours ago
Thanks
srameshc 6 hours ago
Whoever is in charge of these decisions, is absolutely disconnected with the reality. First they sent a message saying the Ultra plan is ending, with no other option for a Workspace use to buy an equivalent plan. It was suppose to be active tilll June or July 7 , that's all. So the users are not suppose to know how they will need to plan or budget and just guess. I read once that after a certain level , the managers need to make their own decisions. Seems like someone just came in and decided that all the Gemini CLI and Antigravity needs to be one , because some other manager thought Antigravity was a better name than Gemini or whatever and started this mess in the first place. I am loosing my faith in these managers and Google.
asdfsa32 4 hours ago
> Whoever is in charge of these decisions, is absolutely disconnected with the reality.

The problem is with your perception of reality. Google doesn't operate for the outside, you're on the outside, Google operates for Google and people in Google care about themselves first, then Google, and then -- if t all, outside.

asdfsa32 28 minutes ago
I am really curious to know about the people who are downvoting this. I really want to know why, genuinely.
logicchains 1 hour ago
It's the same thing they continuously do with GCP: put internal needs first and put the customer last. Nobody at Google ever got fired for screwing over customers.
amirhirsch 7 hours ago
I would love to sign up for antigravity cli but when I click on Get Plan it says: “This account isn't eligible for Google Antigravity benefits included with Google AI plans Google Antigravity benefits included with Google AI plans aren't available in some countries or for people under a certain age. Learn more about Google One feature eligibility.” With a button that says “Explore Google AI Plans” that when I click on it takes me to my Drive.

I can’t believe our Google account setup is different from any other startup in SF. Anyone have success with this? Do they even have a bot at Google that tracks this attrition?

biinjo 4 hours ago
This is the main reason I’m not using Gemini for work. Google won’t let me pay for it. I pay for just about every AI service under the sun but Google needs to refuse my card, account, location or a combination of these.

But they happily take my money for a couple of Workspce accounts.

wg0 2 hours ago
It seems that Google has those product Managers that work barely an hour a day and have zero idea about anything at all. Those in "Life in a day of XYX" sort of videos that were trendy at one point.
No1 4 hours ago
> or for people under a certain age

I've been waiting for the "Google decides kids shouldn't vibe code" headline over the Antigravity age verification shenanigans.

mccoyb 6 hours ago
Mechanics that I found in the binary with a few agents, more information than I could glean from the GitHub page or the docs:

- A Chrome DevTools Protocol / Playwright client.

- macOS Seatbelt sandbox (--sandbox flag) with some special Node / v8 stuff.

- Sentry for crash reporting and Unleash for feature flags.

- A SKILL.md system mirroring Anthropic's skills convention.

- Subagents, an artifacts review workflow (slash commands), and conversation rewind.

- Telemetry redaction in several places (good?)

- go-git bundled in there.

- go-enry / linguist's entire language table: many file extension/syntax tags (Cairo, Stacks Clarity, Modelica, KiCad, etc.) bundled in there.

All in all, a 140 MB Go binary with its own browser control stack, sandbox, Git, language detector, skills runtime, and subagent system.

I'm good, I'll stick with pi and codex. Less is more my friends.

jauntywundrkind 3 hours ago
Adapting "if a product is free, you are the product":

If the agent won't tell you what it's programming is, it's not your agent.

Two fast reflections:

1. I personally really doubt you can stay competitive selling such low-agency products to agentic developers, who are used to having access to/ability to see & reform their agentic worlds.

2. Also impressed by the hubris of giving everyone a single month to make the transition! I'd love the Google Graveyard to keep track of how long between announcement and shut down products got; I expect Gemini CLI getting axed for Antigravity CLI with one month transition is close to a record.

jesse_dot_id 4 hours ago
I stopped using Google products due to their propensity for killing them off. I continue to be proven correct in my assertion that they do not care about their customers.
abrookewood 3 hours ago
100%. I really wish that I could treat them as a valid option, but they continuously reaffirm the position that it is dangerous to rely on them for anything commercial.
trollbridge 3 hours ago
I feel a strange sense of relief that Google’s models are currently not industry leading and I don’t need to worry about not using them.
VincePlatt 1 hour ago
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No1 2 hours ago
As luck would have it, I tried Antigravity for the first time a few days ago.

It was a complete buggy mess - at one point I asked Gemini why it could not use the network despite having network access enabled in the sandbox settings, and it told me that although it had network access, it couldn't use mdnsresponder while running with the built-in sandbox. Like, how well thought out, network access without DNS.

After burning through about 80% of my 5-hour window of credits, I finally just went sandboxless to get the thing running. It hit the limit pretty quickly. I waited until the 5 hour limit was up, and found the 5 hour window had morphed into a one week window, still drained of credits.

I thought at least I can keep on using Gemini CLI until Google figures out this Antigravity thing. Oh well.

OriginalPenguin 1 hour ago
My experience with any built in sandboxing for these command line tools has been awful.

What I've done instead is built a script to create a disposable virtual machine (using incus to manage it).

And then I just run the CLI inside the virtual machine and delete the vm at the end of each day.

ezekiel68 3 hours ago
Lots of people throwing shade at Gemini CLI in the comments. I'm not saying it's perfect, but I enjoy using it. I haven't tried antigravity at all yet. I hope it will be an experience that is somewhat close to agentic coding on the CLI. I hit other model providers from Pi agent, but I'd like to be able to take advantage of my Google AI subscription on the CLI.
hintymad 47 minutes ago
It’s a good decision. If an IDE can do everything that a CLI does and it surely can, then I fail to see the point of a CLI. It’s not like an IDE can’t emulate everything a CLI does but better, faster, and more interactive. It’s not like one does not need to read code either. Besides, what about session management? What about configuring agents, especially for multi-agent orchestration? The list can go on. The point is, IDE or GUI in general gives us optionality. Then, what’s wrong with that?

One may argue that Google’s Antigravity is clunky or cluttered or something worse, but that’s confusing organizational capability with principles.

primaprashant 35 minutes ago
Well, there is no IDE in antigravity 2.0
hintymad 3 minutes ago
Ouch! I assumed too early
AltruisticGapHN 29 minutes ago
What's the big deal?

https://antigravity.google/product/antigravity-cli

They just revamped Gemini CLI. Plus it gets the harness of Antigravity, seems like a straight up upgrade to me?

tedk-42 5 hours ago
Google foeling more like Hooli these days.

"need to install a complete desktop app to get access to our new CLI"

piyh 5 hours ago
They nuked anti-gravity and installed their codex knockoff in place. The vs code fork IDE and all your settings with it have been removed. Reinstalling the anti-gravity IDE, as it's been renamed does not bring back any of your settings or extensions.

This is a cluster across the entire product line

sheepscreek 6 hours ago
This is the right move but I don’t know if I am ready to try them again. I am still bitter from the significantly reduced quotas, even on Ultra, their highest tier. Claude became unusable for me.

It would be much better if they just gave up on Gemini for coding and exclusively adopted Claude models. Even Deep Mind folks themselves prefer Claude over Gemini[1].

[1]: https://www.businessinsider.com/google-deepmind-ai-tool-divi...

logicchains 1 hour ago
Even if they adopted Claude over Gemini they'd probably still try to nickel and dime customers by providing an increasingly degraded experience. The problem isn't Gemini itself, it's all the throttling, quantization and limit reductions that Google does to it.
lern_too_spel 6 hours ago
Confirmed. It's still a bad idea to use it. If you hit your quota, it doesn't refill for a week.
stoicfungi 1 hour ago
They products are pretty messy too. Veo, Gemini Omni Flash, Spark, Flow, Duo .... A lot of confusing and competing product lines.
sbinnee 4 hours ago
I was working on a product that relies on ACP (agent client protocol). Gemini CLI supports ACP natively although it is missing some protocols. But I found that Antigravity CLI (agy) lacks ACP support! It's a bad sign for me.
3683826312819 7 hours ago
So it gains feature-parity with the Gemini vscode extension, which has stopped working the day they released it.
maoeurk 8 hours ago
Stop working? It never even started working for me, I tried it and always just got errors or lack of quota.
LTL_FTC 6 hours ago
Looks like Antigravity cli is moving to weekly limits whereas Gemini cli was daily. Ouch
dr_dshiv 2 hours ago
Anyone ever understand how the Gemini cli could be so bad even though Gemini 3 was so good?
evnix 40 minutes ago
Would be very difficult keeping it going knowing you will be laid off.
2001zhaozhao 8 hours ago
I read through the docs. There is no mention of whether programmatic usage or Agent Client Protocol will continue be supported in Antigravity CLI.
wmf 6 hours ago
People are saying it doesn't have ACP at all. We don't know if that's an intentional decision or a temporary gap.
artdigital 4 hours ago
As much as I like Gemini CLI and don’t like them shutting it down, I think it’s good some of the offerings are getting unified. There was too much fragmentation in the google offering and this is making it a tiny bit better.
No1 1 hour ago
They used to have Antigravity and Gemini CLI.

Now they have Antigravity IDE, Antigravity 2, and Antigravity CLI.

jsLavaGoat 14 hours ago
Yeah, so they are worried about things like CAS that let you use lots of CLI agents from different companies. The fork I'm using lets me use Claude and Codex, and Gemini if I want, but I haven't much lately. Anyway, that sounds like what's happening. Is that wrong?
2001zhaozhao 8 hours ago
I think we will need to move to workarounds based on MCP going forwards.

> run CLI agent with an initial prompt

> tell the agent it isn't allowed to directly reply to the user and must use your tool instead. also all of the CLI's original interactive tools are blocked and it has to use your alternatives

> when the agent uses tools in the MCP, it redirects to your GUI's prompt editor

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gigatexal 23 minutes ago
Classic google. Torch name recognition and goodwill associated with it for something new. http://antigravity.google/blog/introducing-google-antigravit...
wg0 2 hours ago
They killed a gaming cloud this is just a CLI.

That is one reason I avoid Flutter at all costs despite other reasons.

anshumankmr 4 hours ago
Do people use antigravity? In my team, there is one guy but everyone else is on Claude code/GHCP
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vegnus 14 hours ago
And Antigravity CLI starts working from today, interesting
ksajadi 2 hours ago
sometimes I feel we need to hire someone just to catch up with google breaking changes.
MisterPea 3 hours ago
This is a double edged sword for me, I've dabbled with the Antigravity CLI and it is better but I got a lot of LLM use out of google's chaotic decentralized quotas.

gemini-cli had it's own quota, antigravity had it's own quota, and ai studio had it's own free tier quota and I managed to make use of all of them super cheaply.

Now they're finally unifying everything and cutting down, which is less of a cognitive load to keep track of quotas but also fewer benefits

kuschkufan 3 minutes ago
here we go again: https://steve-yegge.medium.com/dear-google-cloud-your-deprec...

which is mainly this part on googles thinking:

> Drop whatever you are doing because it’s not important. What is important is OUR time. It’s costing us time and money to support our shit, and we’re tired of it, so we’re not going to support it anymore. So drop your fucking plans and go start digging through our shitty documentation, begging for scraps on forums, and oh by the way, our new shit is COMPLETELY different from the old shit, because well, we fucked that design up pretty bad, heh, but hey, that’s YOUR problem, not our problem.

grim_io 9 hours ago
Welcome to the Google graveyard, Gemini CLI.

Not that it will be missed much. Using it was the worst experience out of any harness.

No1 4 hours ago
You have not tried Antigravity yet?
myko 5 hours ago
Copilot CLI would like a word
throwaway2027 4 hours ago
Sad. I liked Gemini CLI. I used it a lot and occasionally use it these days. I've never tried Antigravity though.
anderber 5 hours ago
So now there's 3 different Antigravity products: CLI, Antigravity 2, and Antigravity IDE. And Gemini CLI goes to the Google graveyard of products. Wow.
danpalmer 7 hours ago
FWIW, centralising on a single harness in Antigravity seems like a great idea.
TheFragenTaken 2 hours ago
Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me 305+1 [1] times, shame on me.

[1]: https://killedbygoogle.com/

nickv 4 hours ago
People use the Gemini CLI? What poor souls...
upcoming-sesame 1 hour ago
I use it for disposable tasks as it's included in my Pro plan and why not
nh43215rgb 6 hours ago
agy cli is a disaster and half baked product. It wont even resize itself when i maximize terminal.
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photonsphere 1 hour ago
just ... use ... opencode ...

#CLI

re-thc 14 hours ago
This is so confusing. So what happens to Gemini Code Assist plans?

What do the Antigravity quotas mean per plan?

0gs 7 hours ago
Gemini Code Assist goes away i believe
anon84873628 4 hours ago
If you're not using an Enterprise license.
jckahn 5 hours ago
This is awful. I got so much use out of it!
reserve 3 hours ago
Gemini CLI is too slow to use.

Anyway, one more @ Google Graveyard: https://killedbygoogle.com/

antonvs 3 hours ago
I haven't noticed the CLI itself being slow, but the Gemini model responses can be slow.
mpalmer 10 hours ago
Say goodbye to metered usage via API keys you control, and hello to opaque pricing and usage limits.
4b11b4 3 hours ago
I mean, idk why anyone is surprised. Was obvious goog was slow playing their harness
justinhj 3 hours ago
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antibios 5 hours ago
Crap! I was using this to manage my hledger files and it did a decent job.
0xbadcafebee 6 hours ago
Good riddance. Gemini CLI was hot garbage.
magnusekdahl 4 hours ago
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jonnyasmar 3 hours ago
Gemini CLI is so incomprehensibly bad. I can only hope dedicated focus on agy will be the difference maker. It'd be nice to actually be able to integrate Gemini models into my workflows because they offer genuinely unique approaches to problems that complement Claude/Codex really well.
fsniper 3 hours ago
I have been a happy user of Gemini CLI.

What makes it "incomprehensibly bad." in your opinion?